Comments on: Models in the Zend Framework – Part 1

By: Paul White

Paul White — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:14:20 +0000

nm foundit

By: Paul White

Paul White — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:12:59 +0000

This looks interesting and would be a useful series for me.

But, where is part 2!!!

By: techfounder » Models In The Zend Framework - Part 2

techfounder » Models In The Zend Framework - Part 2 — Wed, 21 May 2008 23:05:21 +0000

[...] * Part 1 can found here [...]

By: Eran Galperin

Eran Galperin — Tue, 20 May 2008 13:55:25 +0000

I agree with your general sentiments (as I said in the post). I do believe though, that the Framework should come ready with a class that provides the integration between the db classes, input filtering and several other utility methods, as this is a generic use-case that each model would require.

It’s great to hear there’s progress on the proposals, it seemed to be stuck in neutral for a while now.

By: Matthew Weier O'Phinney

Matthew Weier O'Phinney — Tue, 20 May 2008 11:01:01 +0000

Note: I’m a Software Architect with Zend Framework.

Our “party line” regarding the Model in ZF has always been “Model !== Database”. Basically, in this Web 2.0 world we inhabit now, the database is only one potential _backend_ for a Model — web services, the file system, and configuration files are all also potential model storage.

With that in mind, abstracting the model becomes something quite different from models as encapsulated in other frameworks. We’re looking primarily at filter/validation chains (ala Zend_Filter_Input and/or Zend_Form) and storage backend as the key components, with the possibility of also including generic interfaces for results and resultsets.

Regarding your proposal, we have recently ratified a new proposal process, and are in the process (excuse the pun) of actively reviewing our backlog of proposals; hopefully you will see movement on yours in the coming month.

I look forward to reading more of this series!